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Outsourcing Web Develpment to India/China/etc

Do any of you have any leads on solid, reputable companies in Asia that can deliver at a much lower hourly wage? 

I'm plugging away at building my site and having a blast. It's all coming together really well (you can have a peak at my site... All placeholder images at the moment and lots of work and content to add still). 

I do have a lot of tweaks I'd like to make to the structure of my theme.  I've explored the work I would like done with several North American developers and the quotes I'm getting back are fairly high. At $60-$100 an hour it adds up quickly. 

 

Jersied - Beer League Hockey. Professional Jerseys.
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Grats on the domain name

Providing the email* you want to be contacted at is the first step, as it will get autoresponded to by a lot of providers, just respond to the ones using boilerplate with bad grammar. *you probably want this to be different from your profile email to manage responses better.

I do have a lot of tweaks I'd like to make to the structure of my theme.

For stuff like basic photo editing, copy checking,CSV editing, try fiverr. 

 Though if you can list "tweaks" as discrete tasks: again fiverr can be useful for basic html,css,javascript. However once you throw in liquid and shopify's platform quirks your increasing time sinks.

There are also several companies now offering packaged services for discrete shopify related theme customization tasks or securing blocks of service per month. I gotta find the cheap ones in my notes later.

For now the pricier services examples are:

 

 I've explored the work I would like done with several North American developers and the quotes I'm getting back are fairly high. At $60-$100 an hour it adds up quickly. 

 Yes and it's a good way to avoid risk because the fallacy is lower hourly pay == lower costs. Generally, if you don't also have a software|web development background, communicating the business needs will be your biggest source of time loss not the actual coding. The second will be wearing the human-resources-headhunting AND project-mgr hats for someone in another countries time zone.

High level view for future readers:

If your not making enough to pay yourself to implement something, nor enough to justify paying someone who is purposefully experienced to do it then: YAGNI also KISS

There are very few exceptions stopping startups from just launching; create the store -> theme config -> add products -> launch -> income -> funded changes.

Everything else is some sort of need to have X but no proof or reason for what it X is supposed to solve. This is often gadgets|doodads like chatboxes , bloated slideshows etc that completely avoid the hard question: What is the business case?

You only need to spend an afternoon looking through the feedback forum to start cutting tasks that aren't financially justifiable. Or worse have a task to undo a previous task.

 

Modification & Repair of Themes&settings, CSS,javascript,(coming soon apps) http://www.krop.com/paulnewton/ paull.newton+shopifyforum@gmail.com
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June 26, 2016

YAGI, love it. Thanks for that. Appreicate the solid resonse/advice.

Also appreciate you noticed the awesome URL I snagged. I can't believe I got it... The ONLY challenge is when saying it to people, it's not instantly clear to them it's jersIED. They often just hear jersey.com.

To give you an idea of the changes that I'm looking for: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Oobk4mgRYp8PXRNNBrEkLZpVEWVTS3wO4nj5QA--Q_c/edit?usp=sharing

I definitely DON'T need the changes to do business, but I'm a GUI/UI freak and BOLD's terrible options menus drive me nuts. I want my users to have a completely obvious, smooth KISS experience as they checkout.

I'm also looking for some other clean-ups and tweaks with very little adding new functionality, just cleaning up the integration.

 

Jersied - Beer League Hockey. Professional Jerseys.
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June 26, 2016

By the way, I've been in touch with Bold and I'm evaluating working with them. I've also been humming and hawing about https://heycarson.com/ who offer an interesting service, though if you do the math their hourly rate is still pretty high. I've also reached out to a bunch of shopify experts and one is on the reasonable end of the pay scale whom I'm seriously considering working with.

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I definitely DON'T need the changes to do business, but I'm a GUI/UI freak and BOLD's terrible options menus drive me nuts. I want my users to have a completely obvious, smooth KISS experience as they checkout. 

That would be UX (user experience design) . Which can be a touchy thing to hand off of to someone cheap whose main task is simply coding. It's like when a client ask's to make the logo bigger designers have to pushback and find if there's a reason the client simply lacks the words to express some issue with branding.

In your context an example is: the gdoc's mockup "desired look" needs to be taken as structural guideline for the form not a 1-to1 visual implementation, this is to avoid the stylistic issues in the mockup. FYI: unavailable combinations must be addressed.

I do agree that default forms in themes|apps set a prettly low bar experience-wise and there is a value in better GUI it's just wicked hard to fix the price for a general audience that's lower than $50/hr. This does have me wondering if any a/b testing services could handle the case of custom product forms.

 

it's jersIED. They often just hear jersey.com.

With odd names it's pretty common to secure mispellings of your domain to avoid spammers|ad-squatters, jerseed.com,jerzeed.com,jerseyed.com etc. and some other tlds like .net,.org. This does get pricey so the first thing to do really is start the trademark process.

Also customizations ~=~ tweaks which can help with searches for services, i found a few old links so far but thier defunct now /shrug.

 

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June 26, 2016

I've got the trademark locked up in Canada and I have a few months before I have to register it in the states as well (I can use my priority date in canada in the US). The name is currently clear and clean in the US trademark database so I'min good shape. I'm not going to bother with registering anything other than .com... I just jumped on some of the URLS and a few more that you mentioned! Good tip, thanks.

 

Jersied - Beer League Hockey. Professional Jerseys.
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June 27, 2016

Hello Gregan,

Can defnitely provide you quality Shopify services at verynominal rates. I have my own team of in-house 30+ Shopify and other ecommerce Developers and designers, so we can provide you a one-stop solution for any of your Shopify and other ecommerce platform needs. 

Please feel free to mail me your requirements at aaron.cis10@gmail.com or add me on Skype: aaron.cis

 

so that we can have quick and proper communication. 

BR

Aaron 

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June 27, 2016

Hello Gregan,

We'd like to assist you on the matter and request to join us on Skype for further communication.

Thanks,

Sid

Skype: sudhircj1

 

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I've worked with Indian developers on few projects. You can get it all. Good devs with solid experience and poor devs with limited skills. Its not a rule. Its the same regardless of the country.

It is not really about the hourly wage, is the amount of work that developer can do in that time.

Not all code is "created equal". It may look right but there are hidden things like performance, accessibility, semantics. If you go for "much lower hourly wage" you may pay the price later.

There are few developers that will go for much lower fees in a market that pays well and has a demand.

Got an interesting project or just want to say hi? mircea@typefolly.com
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11 days ago

who did you work with to develop your site ?

Deep Vyas Member
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11 days ago

Hello Gregan,

I have check your post for detail mentioned and have 9+year's of experience can help you with current expectation.

Let me know your available time and I will do my best to accommodate it.

We can discuss further on email - deepvyas71@gmail.com

Please let me know your interest

Best Regards,
Deep

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10 days ago

Hi Gregan,

I am a Shopity App and Theme Developer from India. I can help you with any aspect regarding Shopify. Let it be Theme Development or App Integration or even custom App Development. We do all of that. We do that at a nominal fee of $20 per hour.

Feel free to contact me anytime at promathewsjoseph@gmail.com