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Hello every one, This message is directed at the Shopify dev. team. I really think that Shopify must support multi language shop creation, and that this request should be taken seriously enough to be tagged as high priority. Why one might ask? Simply because it is a Web service, and that we all know that clients shop from all around the world. In Canada, we must have at least two languages (French and English) if not more, including arabic and mandarin. In United-States, there are a lot of spanish speakers. And of course, we all know that the european frontiers are all open to commerce. If I were German or French, I would sell in as many languages as I could (and as my translation budget would permit it). I can't believe that Shopify, being developed in Ottawa, where bilinguism is almost a de facto requirement for any job, where the University of Ottawa (http://www.uottawa.ca/) has one of the best "Institut des langues officielles et du bilinguisme" (http://www.ilob.uottawa.ca/) in the world, is still, after some years in the making, not available in many languages. I know that we can open many shops, that these shops can be translated. But this is not good enough. We need, as a shopify shop customer, to be able to switch languages easily by clicking on ES, or FR, or EN (and not flags). As as developer, we need to have this translation option at our fingertips. Now, how would this be implemented is up to you guys. You know what we are asking for. This request has been made many times. It is time to work on it seriously. Thanks Patrick
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July 25, 2008

Although there are other threads on this subject, this one seems to be the latest one. I agree that something should be done on this front.

I’ve just checked out Shopify again after a year or so of absence. It has gained many nice features, but the only one we’d need is still not here: A simple (?) language selector for our customers.

We need to support four national languages (German, French, Italian and Romanche) as well as English. Opening five different shops and struggling to keep the inventory synced between all of them just won’t cut it :)

In the meantime, we’ve started building our own little shop solution with a reduced feature set, but at least there is a multilingual interface via Ruby-Gettext. We’d much rather use Shopify, though, as we’d probably be able to afford ten years of Shopify hosting for the cost of our own solution :(

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December 08, 2008

And about the admin panel? Is it a dream for it to be in other languages as well? This is almost as important…..unless you only have administrators who speak english. Or is there a way to change language that I haven’t found?

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yes to multi languages! I cannot wait to translate my store in french…

Fanny http://www.bebecannelle.com
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December 11, 2008

Multilanguage support is difficult for most if not all computing platforms. Lately, the Rails software framework which Shopify is built upon has become much easier to Internationalize. There are also some neat plugins that could make translations of products and vendors etc. very flexible.

But, with all that, there is no escaping the fact that it is still very much just a start. And it is also true that no matter how simple the average store things it might be, converting all that Shopify code into full i18n code is a non-trivial task.

Here’s hoping they do it. It would make Shopify a serious contender for the king of the el-cheapo E-Commerce hill…

Don’t hold your breath though… maybe we need a Shopify2 for this eh….

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I noticed that this shop employed their own javascript based solution:

http://www.missandladysboutique.de/

However, their shop locale is german, so any purchases come through in euros instead of pounds even if the language is English. Listings via the API come through in German only as well. Also, I’m not sure how much work is involved in maintaining the translations.

We’ve used this plugin on different projects with much success:

http://www.globalize-rails.org/

Check out http://prosaiku.com for a working example, the site allows you to set your profile to English or Spanish and all pages are then automatically translated to your language.

Of course, implementing this might be non-trivial, since people will invariably disagree on the translation of a certain phrase or word into another language…but it’s a start!

Mike Larkin | http://www.pixellent.com | http://www.fetchapp.com | mikelarkin [at] pixellent [dot] com
Ana Rita Shopify Partner www.lojadoarco.com
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I made a getsatisfaction.com ticket on this issue (actually just on checkout language selection or auto-detection; it’s a start…):
http://gsfn.us/t/lhn
Please go there and endorse it. I think this worked for dynamic collection ordering, another old feature request from shopify shop owners.
Thank you.

Ana Rita http://www.lojadoarco.com/
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February 22, 2009

You are right that it might not be that easy to go back through all the code and add i18n now, but it’s surely not impossible. We’ve done it in two larger Rails projects, gettext and globalize are an example for useful plugins.

Of course Rails 2.2 breaks gettext and introduces their own (inferior to gettext, IMHO) internationalization system, but I’m sure gettext will be updated soon. I’m not even sure Shopify is up to Rails 2.2?

Anyway, still stuck with a rickety old PHP solution (ZenCart) for now, which is a mess of code shotgunned all over the place, but does have this feature :(

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yes to multi languages shop here.
I have many customers in the US and they sometimes have problem to order on my only-french-shop.

Our community is waiting for this since 2 years.

Kyoto, Japan. Happy Shopify user since Shopify beta. Bento&co French Shop : http://www.bentoandco.com Bento&co English Shop : http://en.bentoandco.com Bento&co Japanese Shop : http://www.bentoandco.jp Bento&co BtoB Shop : http://www.bentoandcopro.com/ JapanOnly : http://www.japanonly.com Le blog francophone sur Shopify : http://info-shopify.com
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TBKy, you have a beautiful shop and I hear your plea. Here are a few links that may help in the meantime:

Pricing arrangement for many store fronts

Translation of your theme and of the checkout pages

Caroline from http://11heavens.com ∴ mllegeorgesand AT gmail DOT com
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February 23, 2009

@Ramon,

Just to clarify. You say Rails 2.2 breaks gettext? Not to be a semantic dick, but Rails is really nothing more than a big Ruby program. Ruby and gettext are the issue. Ruby 1.8 series has trouble with multi-byte characters (as does PHP and almost all other languages but they have hacks to deal with them). Ruby 1.9 can do it better.

Gettext works as you know, but it remains a pain in the backend (read: arse) since you need to work the command line. No one (???) has bothered to make a wrapper for that system which tells you something about it’s usability.

The i18n effort in Rails (translate “foo” or translate :foo) is pretty neat actually. If you dump a javascript dictionary to your front end, you can make a sweet application. When Ruby 1.9 is more widely used, I am sure we’ll all see some i18n improvements to web apps needing it. With Globalize2 plugin, even model translations are decent now.

As for Shopify doing this, it would seem the problem could be solved by providing each Shopify site with a dictionary editor where each possible translation could be entered.

Here’s hoping that sees the light in 2009…

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February 27, 2009

I can’t agree more. We need to go ahead with this.

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February 27, 2009

@Update2All,

After adding I18n to a pretty complex web application, I can say that it does indeed work pretty well. The nice thing about keeping translations in YAML files is editing. Editing is not painful.

Also, keeping in touch with the Joneses on this, it is entirely possible to use Gettext as a backend. There are two groups successfully using Gettext wrappers they wrote as backends.

Shopify 2.0 should definitely support the I18n/L10n so that shop owners can have ONE inventory with a GLOBAL audience…

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Exciiiiiting, Hunkybill. Thanks for sharing this with us. I know from Chris that it’s one area in RoR you know very well.

Caroline from http://11heavens.com ∴ mllegeorgesand AT gmail DOT com
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May 22, 2009

@HunkyBill: I thought “X breaks Y” was pretty common geek syntax for “this does not work with that”, no matter which of the two triggers the breakitude :)

And that’s what I meant: Changes in Rails 2.2.x had made the older (1.x – 2.1.x) gettext modules not work anymore, so yes, it’s gettext that has to catch up. They’ve almost caught up now (after a maintainer change, I believe).

The reason we’re using gettext in our projects is that it’s reasonably common in the translator community, you can get lots of editors for .po files and the array of tools that do clever things to gettext files is huge. Also, of course, there was no i18n in Rails when we started (Rails 0.9).

It would be nice if Shopfiy became multilingual at some point, but since my own set of required features (configurability of products, e.g. change hard drive sizes on a PC) has grown a bit in the last year, I think I will have to stick with my horrible PHP shop and start hacking Spree :(

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@Ramon,

I completely understand your motivations. I am still hacking my RoR 2.2.2 app for I18n. As one small example of tough web app hacking, I have to have my interface present itself in 2+ languages. As a twist, since it is a CMS, content has to be entered in 2+ languages, but from ANY flavour interface language.

With that now out of the way, and with full-text search working I18n thanks to Thinking Sphinx, I can say we have now mastered most of the I18n in a simplistic way.

Maybe one day, we’ll be smart enough to do it elegantly. In the meantime, I have YET ANOTHER MASSIVE client that I want to push to Shopify, but the I18n thing is killing me!!! Two stores for one inventory… GAH!!!

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dkjess Shopify Partner dkjess.com
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January 06, 2010

I see a lot of talk about i18n i this thread but, the technical solution is not so important for me.

I would like to se a way to add a country in your preferences.

Then each textbox like collection description, product description, price and so on would be tabbed with each tab representing a different language.

This way the store owner is responsible for making all the translations.

The tech I will leave to Tobi and the other talented people from Shopify.

/Jess 

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Hi,

I think it might be good to add i8n file structure into the liquid theme.

This is how demandware works:

An "en" folder for english in any folder (assets, themes, layout). Then through the URL it would choose that specific folder if it was available.

So, mysite.com/en/product/123 would pick up any "en" folder, while mysite.com/fr/product/123 would pick "fr" folders and i8n file.

Create a language folder (see attached image) so that you can put variants for different languages.

i.e.

<input type="submit" name="add" value="Add to Cart" id="add" class="primary clearfix" />

would become

<input type="submit" name="add" value="{{lang.cart.addToCart}}" id="add" class="primary clearfix" />

 

Cheers,

Halmat

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brian Member
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March 14, 2010

I am disappointed and at a complete loss as to why this functionality isn't here.  What is baffling is all the effort that went into setting up a tax and shipping system that is compatible with virtually every country in the world but then there is no multi language support?  Why go to so much trouble to enable to shop to sell world wide without this obvious and necessary functionality? 

I like shopify and it's a great product but some key glaring limitations (such as lack of multi language support) may force me to move away from it as my business grows sooner rather than later.

Can anyone update as to whether or not shopify is on this task and if so when it will be available?

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March 14, 2010

@brian,

Shopify has repeated the mantra "Not gonna happen" many times. 

Obviously, with enough time and effort they could roll out a Shopify2 with i18n built in... but after 4 years I'm not holding my breath. Seems the low fruit are being picked for now.

If you want the same functionality as Shopify with i18n you could host yourself a SpreeCommerce account. It uses ActiveMerchant for Credit Cards, and can bridge you till Shopify changes.

 

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March 15, 2010

An alternative, even it's not a perfect one, is to use google translate tool. We have a shop in danish and only about 5.5 million people speak this language. Now after we implemented google translate on our site the international sales went up from 5% to over 60%.

Some tings to be aware of is that google translate also translate currency's that beeing DKK to for example $ or € so you have to put them in as small graphics, we did this with css.

There is no positive SEO effect in using google tanslate, and that's a big downside. This is why we need a real translated shop in the future.

It's not perfect, but takes 5 min. implement ;-)

 

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May 04, 2011

Hi All,

I like to have my shopify store in 2 languages. i.e. English and Chinese. 

How can i do it with shopify? 

Is there any API available or do i need to use Google translator?

Please reply earliest. I am in urgent task.

Thanks

Dhvani

Jamie Chief Officer of Funness shopify.com/plus
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May 04, 2011

Hi Dhvani,

 Either two shops mirrored and hand translated or Google translate.

 

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Dhvani Member
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May 05, 2011

Thanks Jamie For quick reply.

Ok . Than i think Google translate is better way. 

But seriously shopify needs something for multi-language.

Thanks

Dhvani

slavoie Shopify Partner www.samuellavoie.com
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July 21, 2011

+1 for that feature.

I don't necessarily want to duplicate my store to add another language, this is super time consuming as all my productcs already have multi-lingual descriptions.

http://www.samuellavoie.com
ctaborda Member
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September 29, 2011

Its kind of ridiculous that this is not supported. If you wanna charge us $10 /mo extra for it, do it. We need it.

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October 24, 2011

+1 for multiple language support!

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October 27, 2011

+1 for multi language support. We are working in EU. It means inventory transitions, payments for each store, different statistics and so on.

 

I would be happy to see all my sales in one place, not in 7.

www.greenreader.co.uk
owenperry Shopify Partner
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November 02, 2011

I'll admit, I'm quite surprised this hasn't been done yet. Shopify is probably one of the best known eCommerce platforms on the internet. If they were to add multi-language support, there are lucrative markets in Asia, Europe and South America which could be tapped... heck... it literally opens up the world to Shopify...

Are there any updates from the Shopify team on this? Would appreciate it if I could let my client know when it might be available.

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I 100000% agree that this is pretty much the biggest glaring hole in Shopify (and really the only hole in my opinion). I want this feature so bad it hurts!!! Please please please please implement this...

Now that I am done whining I am going to try and be constructive. I happen to run a web development company and we have the mad ninja skills. I have come across one feature that Shopify does have that could potentially lead to a solid multi-lingual solution without Shopify having to refactor their code base. Trust me... refactoring this much code with this many active users who all run businesses on the platform... painful!! I do not blame them for not wanting to do this.

http://www.shopify.com/technology/3032322-new-feature-metafields

We have the ability to add metadata to pretty much anything on a shop. This provides us with the building blocks to be able to assign translation data to products, variants, the shop itself, pages, etc. All of the metadata is accessible from the liquid templates. All one needs to do is add the translations as metadata and using a mixture of liquid and javascript, create a toggle. Definitely not rocket surgery, but not a breeze either. I think you can only add metadata using the API (have not double checked) which complicates things a bit more, but not much.

I am going to  investigate this further and report my findings here. If I end up going this route I will definitely share the code we use to enable it. The one big caveat to this is that it only applies to the shop, not to the checkout process.

Here is my wishlist to make creating a multi-lingual shop as painless as possible for both Shopify and Us:

  • Make it so that I can add metadata through the admin interface and not just api (this might already be possible.. I am lazy and have not looked)
  • Make it so that I can somehow insert (via js) some sort of switch (hidden form field? Get param?) to the checkout button so I can tell Shopify what language to make the checkout. This should not be an issue as you can already choose the checkout language on shop creation..

I can live with having the checkout always be in english... so these 2 points are just a wishlist. After writing them.. even if you could dynamically change the checkout language, the product names or what have you would be in the initial language you entered them into the shop. Again I can live with this.

Wow, a tad all over the place but I see a light at the end of the tunnel.

Shopify, does this (other than wish list) sound possible? Has anyone done it before?

 

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+1 for multiple language support! This should be a high priority. I get it that it's not so important in the US, but here in Europe it is. We'll pay double :)

Just to raise the voice:)

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To make a feature request truly count click on the button below to create a ticket. In the subject line use "Feature Request". The feature requests through this channel are looked at by the developers. A random post in this USER forum will likely go completely unnoticed and thus be a fruitless waste of calories to type out your post.

It takes only a moment. Use the big blue button, it's shiny, it's pretty, you can click on it.

 

✭ Please don't post here ✭

⬆But instead press the button above⬆

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November 15, 2011

@Jamie,

That button is all great and fine, but the fact that there is no feedback from it makes it nearly useless. We get no idea how many features are requested, how many are the same, and how many have been, or will be implemented. Imagine the difference it would make to all parties involved if that button delivered those metrics upon receipt of a simple request. 

Now, we know those metrics exist (except perhaps a timeline on when any feature may actually be delivered). So perhaps a new button should be invented, demanding some sort of metrics from the big blue button???

It is not hard for Shopify to just say no... but it is equally hard to be teased with a carrot. 

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(couldn't resist Dave) But seriously though I'm just saying I would like to see these features as well, but a forum post doesn't really do anything. Making a feature request does. That's why when I see a thread like this that has lots of interest I always do a courtesy big blue button to make it as easy as possible to make a feature request.  The more feature requests get tallied the more weight they hold. Like calling in your vote on American Idol. The more the merrier. I don't disagree on your metrics either.

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rj64 Shopify Merchant rachellucie.co.uk
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November 16, 2011

lol! that had to be done :)

not taking away from Dave's points, though

 

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slavoie Shopify Partner www.samuellavoie.com
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November 26, 2011

Keep bumping this thread, this need to be on their roadmap. I'm working with a multi national business and this is THE show stopper with Shopify.

http://www.samuellavoie.com
white2blue Shopify Partner white2blue.com
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December 01, 2011

Multilanguage Support at Shopify is very important for me, too. I need everything in English and Spanish. Thanks

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December 12, 2011

@casimir loeber

I was also thinking in a solution based on the meta-tags of each product. I guess it would be easy to show a collection related to its "optional value"=en, es, fr,...including the appropriate values in each case (for instance: description)

But there are other parts of the page that can't be loaded with the necesary metadata such as navigation links or collection names.Due to that I don't find how to show only the links needed for the language you have chosen hiding those in other language. If you have any idea of this I would work on it.

 

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December 12, 2011

I am thinking it would be pretty easy now to leverage the App Proxy feature to render the correct Liquid template depending on language selected. Still leaves checkout as an orphan in a single language, but I think it would go a long way to cleaning up the messy approaches I have seen thus far... 

Anyone experimented with this yet? I have a pretty nice pattern to try, but I am not too far along in it... got other things to do... but I keep receiving i18n conversion requests, so it must be a popular thing.

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utopiko Shopify Partner velvetmoustache.ca
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December 21, 2011

I love Shopify, but this features is ULTRA IMPORTANT. So as of January 2012, I'll be looking to switch to another service because it's a HIGH priority for my shop. 

I'm in Quebec, and we now sell worldwide. So now my site is in English so that everyone can understand, but I am ashamed to not have it in French.

It will probably be a pain in the a.. to switch, maybe the next service won't be as fluid and as beautiful as Shopify, but if it offer multilanguage support, I'm in !

Any idea where to go ?

(Or preferably any idea when Shopify will make a move?)

 

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February 09, 2012

We wanted to use Shopify to take our charity's Fair Trade Handicrafts Shop online back in Sep 2009. We couldn't because Shopify lacked any integrated gateways for Hong Kong and it lacked multi-lingual support (we need English and Chinese.)

So we built our own using Spree (which shares some history with Shopify.) Then multi-lingual was not trivial but very doable.

Anyway, we're now looking at either upgrading our Spree store to the new version or jumping to Shopify. We would prefer Shopify because it has a great ecosystem of integrations and it's such a "quick" solution that keeps our developers free to do other things. There is now a payment gateway we can use in HK multi-lingual is still stuck.

Shame :(

livit Member
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April 14, 2012

This can't be stressed enough, this is THE feature needed to be implemented ASAP!

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I just wanted to raise the attention to this post once more. Seriously shopify, get on with it.

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July 25, 2012

We do need the feature asap!

slavoie Shopify Partner www.samuellavoie.com
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August 14, 2012

Still not part of Shopify? I don't get how a canadian provider established in a fully bilingual city (Ottawa) as Shopify does not have this built-in right off the bat.

Seriously?

http://www.samuellavoie.com
thisislawatts Shopify Partner thisis.la
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October 09, 2012

I would like to add my +1 to this feature request.

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You may want to try the beta app from think orange.pt:

http://apps.shopify.com/shop-translator

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thisislawatts Shopify Partner thisis.la
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October 09, 2012

Hey Jamie,

Thanks for the suggestion. I had been looking into this App, and given the alternatives it's certainly something I am going to be investigating. Combined with something like the neat solution from http://athleti.ca/

read more --> http://ecommerce.shopify.com/c/shopify-discussion/t/solution-for-multi-language-107818

However I do feel that this is something which should be offered from within Shopify rather than a third party service. Is this featured on any roadmap for the Product? Given this thread has been around for four years, and thanks to Google occasionally +1 upped it would be really great to know for sure.

Alternatively I think we should pursue the ideal of a single language for all :P

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December 05, 2012

+1 for the multi-language support feature (I clicked the shiny blue button and make an official request, too).  I think shopify needs to really tackle this problem head-on, and not leave it the third parties or halfway solutions.

mtsteven Shopify Expert
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January 24, 2013

+1 for the multi-language support feature

thisislawatts Shopify Partner thisis.la
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January 24, 2013

Obviously I am saying this to intentionally poke the proverbial (Shopify) bear, but Magento Go has figured it out and offers support for up to 3 languages.

Your responses please..  :D

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Indeed Magento Go does offer this... I can't understand Shopify hasn't integrated this yet, this issue has been around for a while now... As a European based developer all my clients want a multilanguage solution. So please Shopify; work this out. 

In the mean time let's fix this ourselfs; What are the options:

 

A. Multiple domains
Probably the best option. Setup multiple Shopify stores, each with a different domain name. I think subdomains are possible to. You can use a little script to automatically detect visitors language. 

+ SEO friendly
- Paid solution. (Altough you should contact Shopify sales and ask a deal. Anyone know the pricing?) 
- Lot's of work managing your inventory 

Live examples: http://www.razwar.com/

 

B. Javascript solution
Use the following app: http://apps.shopify.com/shop-translator to translate your shop. 

+Works pretty well from what I've heard.
- The checkout page is in one language. (Although you can show both languages, with a fix)
- Still in Beta, few featured missing. (Can't translate blog, meta tags, url-titles...)

Live examples:

http://www.teresaalecrim.com/ or http://www.hollandboutique.com/ or http://millesor.com/

 

C. Use google translate
Don't do this. People don't speak robot.

 

 

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February 11, 2013

+1 for the multi-language support feature

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February 12, 2013

Att. Dries Pieters,

 

I added the Javascript solution through your link. They still have a free 5 days trial, but I see one issue with this app. It's not possible to translate the E-mail templates like the order confirmation, shipping confirmation etc. I mean, yes it is actually possible, but the Shopify store will only send the confirmation in one language right? So if you translate your site to French, but your basic language is English, your French customers will receive the order confirmation in English - As opposed to legislation in several European countries.


Do you know about a solution for that or did I just miss something?

 

And this one goes out to Shopify...

Come on! I love your platform but your support is so bad! Multiple language is a must have when you look at the international opportunities you provider otherwise. Also you need to know about the rules when customers "check out" on the webshops. The way it is done now is not in the process of legislation in eg Denmark. I need to use Magento if you not act sson, please... PLEASE DO!

Best Regards Anders Berendt Founder and owner of Abbe Polyhagen
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@Abbe Good point. It's indeed not possible to translate the e-mail templates. You could provide both languages in the same mail, but that's a sketchy solution. (As is the whole javascript solution) 

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@Dries

In this case, I think your option A would be the best solution for everyone who want's to stay with Shopify, unless Shopify is soon to come up with a solution - But it has been a problem since 2008 or earlier, so I would not put my trust on them.

But there is more issues with using multiple domains also

+ SEO friendly
- Paid solution. (Altough you should contact Shopify sales and ask a deal. Anyone know the pricing?) 
- Lot's of work managing your inventory

and...

- You have to setup a totally new account.
- Buy apps for 2nd time. Like templates etc.

And then, I'm not sure, but you maybe have to pay for the payment gateways once again... Unless you use a solution like Paypal.

It would be great if we could come up with a solution to solve this BIG problem. Just don't know how :-/

 


Best Regards Anders Berendt Founder and owner of Abbe Polyhagen
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Since Shopify is now also focussing on the Canadian market, I'm hoping the pressure will be bigger to add this feature. Would be great if this get's added in 2013...

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I am just looking for a bilingual version of Shopify with multi shipping and multi currency.

HAve you heard anything about bilingual since you post the request in 2011? danc

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I just lost a client over the lack of this feature!
Thanks a lot shopify!

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+1 for multi-lingual support. I have a client based in Korea who needs a bilingual ecommerce site. Shopify is my #1 choice these days, but due to the lack of the feature I'll be going with woocommerce for this client.

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+1 for multi-lingual support. Spanish is a must for a US product. What is this basic feature taking so long?

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I really like Shopify, but in the long term I can't stay without multi-language support and will have to find another solution (Magento or Shopware). It's really this one thing missing that makes the difference.

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Just got excited about shopify, we have 3 projects comming up in the very near future (this month). However, can't use Shopify, in Switzerland you can't get around Multilanguage, even if there are Hacks, but Product descriptions need to be translated too. It would have been to good to be true if we could have used shopify. ah well.

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Folks - for anyone joining this thread now, you might like to know that we just launched the world's first Bilingual Theme for Shopify to try and help overcome the problems mentioned in this thread. 

Our team are all language fans, so we've been working over the last few months to create something which we think will help existing & new businesses to enable their site in two languages.

We feel it has some advantages over the existing Translator App (like:  You can translate blog posts and tags, you don't get sent back to the home page when you click the language switcher, it switches instantly, and others).. but yes, we are biased ;-)

There isn't a perfect solution for everything right now (e.g. Cross-Domain SEO, as mentioned in this thread), but we feel it's a big leap in the right direction. 

If you're interested, you can see:

Any questions or suggestions are welcome.

Shopify Ninja | http://www.shopifyninjas.com | tristan@shopifyninjas.com | http://about.me/tristanking65
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Folks - for anyone joining this thread now, you might like to know that we just launched the world's first Bilingual Theme for Shopify to try and help overcome the problems mentioned in this thread.

Thats a good start, because we had to translate all the HTML into German, Shopify really needs to go International. We opened last year (2012) and we love Shopify but we NEED German.

It looks like the request for a multi-language Shopify has been posted 5 years ago!!!

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July 22, 2013

Thanks Cam.  Indeed - bilingualism / multilingualism on Shopify is super important.  Just let me know if you have any queries about the theme. 

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July 26, 2013

Would like to throw in another vote for multi-lingual support...have to switch to another platform now to go international. Bummer.

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July 26, 2013

Hi Nathan, which platform are you switching to?

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August 07, 2013

Dear Shopify, 

Multi languages these days is a must! We will switch to another platform, in Europe to have 5 shops for 5 languages will cost us north of 500€ per months, this is not feasible. PLease consider as I dont want to switch, but I have to is necessary.

 

Thanks, Marcus 

 

www.woombikes.com

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Hello,

I have researched and read (probably all) the forum posts, blogs, Shopify API, and themes related to this subject and I believe I can create an App for multilingual support.

Features:

  • Only one app to install
  • No theme to buy
  • You can keep using your existing theme(s).
  • No need for multiple language stores, hence no need to sync inventory between language stores.
  • Create as many languages as you like, not just limited to 2.
  • Switch languages on-the-fly without having to re-load the page
  • Switch languages without having to go back to the Home page and loosing the current page.
  • SEO-friendly
  • Translate any and all of the following:
  1. Blogs
  2. Custom Collections
  3. Customers
  4. Orders
  5. Pages
  6. Products
  7. Product Variants

To avoid raising your hopes and expectations too high, we need to be realistic about the limitations, based on Shopify's limitations, which many people before me have identified:

  • Does not work for checkout
  • Does not work for email templates (although I might have a work-around)
  • Does not work for the admin interface

I live in Ottawa, I have been attending the Ruby meetups at Shopify for the last 3 years.  I know many people personally at Shopify and I would be happy to talk to them face-to-face about the limitations and find out what they suggest.  I am not saying I can convince them to change their business policy (they might have valid business reasons why they haven't supported this yet as part of the core functionality), however, I am open to having a discussion with them.

If you are interested in funding all or part of this project (and getting the app at a reduced price or even free), I would like us to talk.

Or, if you would purchase such an app:

  • Would you prefer a one-time charge, or a recurring charge?
  • How much would you pay for a one-time charge?
  • How much would you pay for a recurring charge?

Feel free to answer here in the forum, or email me at my temporary email for forums :

aa08_temp (at) email.simplytech.com

and I will be happy to provide you with my business email and phone number, and chat by phone, Skype, or Google Hangout to really understand your requirements especially in terms of the user interface and user experience of the app.

Thanks,

Alain.

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August 11, 2013

Hi Alain,

Much needed as far as I'm concerned. SEO is a huge concern though, so would only be of interest if all text content could be translated (i.e. includes page titles, descriptions, h1, etc.). Also, images would have chosen per language as some images may feature text embedded.

I would prefer a one time charge. I am thinking 50USD would be reasonable? Could be willing to pay more but if so, then I guess monthly payment would make more sense. Naturally, this would not be enough to fund the project alone, but if others are willing to chip in...who knows. 

Regarding the UI, I am already using Josetta for Joomla and like what they have done - but I guess it would take a tremendous amount of work to achieve the same results...

Let me know what you think, thanks!

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Hi Angry Unicorn,

As I mentioned in my post, SEO-friendly and all the text content in items (1-7) should work.

You raise a good point about images:

  • For product images, this should work as for text
  • For images that are part of the theme, you might have to do some manual editing.

Just to be clear, my app will not provide translation - you have to do the translation.  My app enables you to easily enter the translations in a back-office admin panel.  Then the shop visitor can switch languages on-the-fly.

Josetta looks to be both a translator and an admin panel.  I will have a look at the UI for inspiration.

Thanks for your feedback!

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August 13, 2013

Hi Alain,

Interesting prospect.  My  main query is - how will this be different to the existing app?

Cheers! - Tristan.

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August 27, 2013

+1 for multilingual!!!

gaudi Member
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August 31, 2013

Hello TBKy,

Shopify refer to your multilingual webshop as an example how to lifehack the absence of multilingual support. What I understand is that you created a webshop for every language and linked them together? How does that work with your database / inventory, does each website share the same stocklist/database or do you have to synch manually?

Thnx,

Gaudi

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Tristan @ Shopify Ninjas : your current app only supports a maximum of two languages (I liked 3) and no current theme support (I paid $ 180 my current theme, and i love it !).

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Hi @Stephanie Sayeb!  Yes - you're right about both of those.  I can see you're using the Seasons Theme - good looking store you have there.  Just to clarify, it's a theme (one-off install), not an app (monthly thing).   To address your two points:

  • Adding Two Languages to an existing theme:  Unfortunately, just 'adding' bilingual functionality to an existing theme is not easy to do.  There are several hundred places where we need to show and switch between languages.  Theoretically, it would be possible - but it would take a long time to do (inserting hundreds of translatable pieces of text throughout an existing theme and getting them all to interact together), and would end up being prohibitively expensive for most folks.  That's why we built a theme in and of itself.
  • Two languages: It's also the first time a Bilingual Theme has been built, and it was very difficult to do it even with two languages.  We didn't want to overwhelm ourselves -- and customers -- by introducing 3 languages right out of the gate, so we kept it 'simple', sticking to two languages.

Possible options are:

  • If you really need bilingualism, it's possible to customise our theme to look like your existing one.  You could do some of it, and we could do the rest.  We've done this for a quite a few clients - taking the bilingual theme, and customising the look-and-feel to suit their existing theme.  This isn't a quick job, but if it opens up new markets & new languages, it can be worthwhile.  We're not trying to cannabalise other themes here - I recommend other themes all the time - but so far, this is the best way we've found to have bilingualism on an existing theme.
  • For 3 languages:  You could have 1 or 2 (using the bilingual theme) on one store, and then link out to another language's store, which would be a separate site, but with the same look and feel.  http://groovboard.co is a good example of this.

If you have a question about the theme, I'd be happy to answer; but I hope that helps to clarify.

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If this app would work in German it would be great!!!

Personally I like one-time fees and I would pay up to 200 Dollars.

 

I also noticed that a shipping app like 'ordoro' is needed in Germany. So you can print shipping labels for DHL Germany fast and more easily. At the moment we are copying and pasting Shipping Addresses into the DHL software. This costs us a lot of time. I generally notice that most of the apps are optimized for the US and Canada, some don't work in Europe at all.

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Hello Tristan,

A question regarding your point:

"For 3 languages:  You could have 1 or 2 (using the bilingual theme) on one store, and then link out to another language's store, which would be a separate site, but with the same look and feel.  http://groovboard.co is a good example of this."

Does this mean that we have to set up 2 paid account at Shopify? Or is ti possible to host two sops undr one account? Probably not..

Cheers

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October 03, 2013

Hi Gaudi,

Thanks for your interest.  The 'official' stance is that yes, normally Shopify would require you to have two separate accounts / plans.  What I would suggest though, is to try contacting them - they're often very accomodating and flexible.  I have had clients in the past who were able to negotiate with them for a cheaper rate on their second store. 

I couldn't guarantee it, but it's worth asking.  And you could do the asking before you signed up, so you know what's possible and what isn't.  That'd be my suggestion :)

Cheers! - Tristan.

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Hi @Can Ikram -- our theme does indeed work with German :)

Here's an example of real, live store which using our theme for German/English (based in Switzerland)

http://suture.ch/

Clever clients around the globe have built stores in tons of language so far, including German/Spanish/French/Turkish/Chinese/Russian.. and the list is growing.  Here's a quick wrap-up of some examples stores created in two languages, in case you're interested.

Hope that helps as food for thought. :)

Cheers,

Tristan.

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November 09, 2013

http://www.hollandboutique.com/

we have got our Shopify running in both English and Chinese.

Not easy, but it works. 

Cam Shopify Expert elkfox.com
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November 12, 2013

The easy way to solve this would be for Shopify to use a variation of the 'liquid' markup system as a dynamic language device.

The method would be for themes to use language 'tags' instead of hardcoded language. Then, a shop owner could add different language for each tag, including product fields. For example, a product name could be a duplicable field with a language code selection attached to each.

Say the product name is "Red Shirt". Once the product is created in the default language, a button would become available to repeat the title element. Once clicked, the new title element would have a small language selection as a drop down before the field. Say you wanted the product title translated to French, then you would select 'FR' from the drop down and type "Rouge Chemise" in the field.

Another way to approach it would be to have an override section in the store dashboard. Then you could use tags like {{ contact.language }} for which you could set new language items to replace that tag as needed.

Hopefully Shopify implement something like this soon!

Head fox at Elkfox | App and web, design and development | Digital commerce experts | https://elkfox.com
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Dear Shopify Team,

Could you give us a status on the multi-language support please?
As a belgian webshop we would really need this future to expand our business, currently this limitation is holding back our business, and i don't think that this is the objective of a such a great platform. Could you please look into this? We think that a lot of business owners are willing to pay some good money to have this implemented.

Who else thinks this should be implemented soon?


Greets,

Pieter-Willem Ots
www.stokedboardshop.be
 

Keep Riding, Stay Stoked Pieter-Willem Ots CEO www.stokedboardshop.be
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December 17, 2013

Hi Simply Tech,

your business model could be a monthly fee per language or one-off payment per language.

We need 6 languages, I would be happy to be 100 bucks a language or 10 bucks a month per language, something along that line...

Are you still looking into building this?

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December 25, 2013

Let's hope this project is among those they'll allocate some of the $100 million in Series C funding they secured 2 weeks ago... ;-)

 

 

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February 03, 2014

Hi Johannes,

Great to see!  Keen to test it out.  When I tried to install, it didn't let me go through.. is it set to go?  Also, do you have a demo store we could look at to see how it looks on the front-end?

Thanks!

Shopify Ninja | http://www.shopifyninjas.com | tristan@shopifyninjas.com | http://about.me/tristanking65
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February 05, 2014

Hi Johannes,

Thanks for the link to the demo store.  I tried it out, but when I choose the language toggle (E.g. Change English to German), nothing changes.  I tried it out on the homepage (nothing happened) and also on the "About Us" page (ditto).  It also doesn't remember which language I selected, when I move between pages.  Seems like it might still need some tweaking.  Anyway, I'll leave it with you -- just thought I'd let you know that it's not working, on my end at least.

Shopify Ninja | http://www.shopifyninjas.com | tristan@shopifyninjas.com | http://about.me/tristanking65
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February 21, 2014

Thank you Johannes. What the hell, Shopify

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February 21, 2014

Hi Sara,

I don't work for Shopify, but just to clarify:  this is not an easy problem to solve :)  There is lots involved in providing for bilingual functionality, especially when you consider all the different themes, business types and language combinations. There are now some options emerging (Bilingual Theme, Apps etc.) that can help.. and let's hope it's moving towards the top of Shopify's road map as well :)

Shopify Ninja | http://www.shopifyninjas.com | tristan@shopifyninjas.com | http://about.me/tristanking65
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February 26, 2014

+1

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February 26, 2014

I added the langify app yesterday and must say that it worked really really well! To be honest I was quite hesitant to begin with but I gave it a shot and it worked like a charm.

I can really recomend it!

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June 13, 2014

I would be happy already if Shopify allowed for combining two or more shops in the same account, replicating the chosen theme and translating it ourselves but sharing at least the stock database and, if possible, the payment gateways  and reporting features. Would that make it any easier to be able to 'roll-out' a multilingual solution Shopify? 

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June 13, 2014

+1

I ♥ Shopify &amp; Best practice development
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So, six years from the original post and still the same issue.

I am new at Shopify, from Mexico. I can't believe that something as basic as multi-language is not easy to set up in Shopify. I am really disappointed.

And please, don't make paid apps or themes to address this topic. In the 21st century it is a must and has to be FREE.

Already planning con changing to another e-commerce provider. Shame :(

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What bothers me more than Shopify not providing multilanguage support, is the fact that Shopify doesn't take seriously clients requests and their roadmap is totally unclear. We need to know what you guys are building and an approximately timeline. Your customers depend on certain functionalities and have to make decisions upon them.

As mentioned in another post: "Multi-language support is not in active development. Instead, other projects like Checkout, gift cards, and order creation are". Who decided that Gift Cards are more crucial than Multilanguage support?

Best example of customer driven features is that of Ecwid's. I've used Ecwid as a developer for about a year and I must say their "request a feature" section (http://bit.ly/1rPvrr8) does an amazing job. People vote on requests, most voted requests make it to the top of the list and Ecwid developers update the progress of each request. This way everybody's happy. No complains.

So I would suggest, instead of building features that are just easy to build, or cool to have, or because you like them, or whatever... maybe you could build a better way to communicate with your customers.

Thanks for the efforts so far, and hopefully someday we will have multi-language or at least bilingual support in Shopify.

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January 13, 2015

@Z46M77 You can use the langify app to translate your store. Check it out, it works great:

https://apps.shopify.com/langify

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January 13, 2015

@Z46M77 another alternative as a one-off (instead of recurring) setup is the Bilingual Theme, here:

http://shopifyninjas.com/bilingual-shopify-theme-download-4

Just for you to consider.

Cheers,

Tristan.

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Localize.js has an automated solution for this. check out their tutorial

https://localizejs.com/docs/integrations/shopify

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We recently launched an app integration for shopify

https://apps.shopify.com/localize

 

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Localize.JS has worked very well for me to help translate, internationalize, and localize.

A+ support and easy integration.

It even auto-detects the user's language! =>

https://apps.shopify.com/localize

https://localizejs.com/docs/integrations/shopify

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March 15, 2015

So far, I have discovered this http://www.smoolis.com/ - the only public e-commerce system with the multi-languages ability. Still, their system is quite trivial.

 

 

 

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So far, I have discovered this http://www.smoolis.com/ - the only public e-commerce system with the multi-languages ability. Still, their system is quite trivial.